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#1 xedubu

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Posted 20 September 2018 - 08:41 PM

Hey fellow players,

 

I'm pretty new to LeikaRo, but I enjoy the server pretty much. People are nice und usually you find someone to level. I even found a guild.

 

But there is one thing, I cant get my head around: poison spore, immortal heart, fabric and stem have to be farmed.

 

Creator is my favourite class and I like brewing the potions, but thing I never understood was the lack of ability to buy those materials and invest a really large amount of playtime just to be able to use the skill, while most other stuff goes on pretty fast (especially with all the quests its all super fast to be rebirth and level 99, which I honestly like).

 

To use Acid Demonstration you need 1 Acid Bottle and 1 Fire Bottle per cast!

 

Now how to get the acid bottle? What do you need?

 

Medicine Bowl -> NPC 

Empty Bottle -> NPC 

Immortal Heart -> dropped by Verit -> best farming spot moc_pryd05 (50x) [now imagine 2-3 people farming there, it takes you hours to get a decent amount of Immortal Heart, the map is pretty large also]

 

Ok, now we can start brewing Acid Bottles. 

 

Time to get the Fire Bottles.

Medicine Bowl -> NPC

Empty Bottle -> NPC

Fabric -> dropped by Whisper -> gl_sew01 (40x)

Alcohol -> right, first you have to brew and farm the stuff for it too, so->

1 Medicine Bowl -> NPC

1 Empty Test Tube -> NPC

1 Empty Bottle -> NPC

5 Stems -> dropped by most plants like flora mjolnir_11 (60x)

5 Poison Spore -> dropped by most shrooms like Poison Spore pay_fild05 (65x)

Another way is using the Plant Cultivation Skill (50% Chance to get a mob and then you have to hit it like 7 timest to get your item x1).

 

Ok, lets say you did all that and invested hours and hours to get a decent amount of bottles (lets say like 200) and took the time to brew them all. Now you are able to use that skill 200 times. 

Now you think "ha, I'm gonna show it to them big ass scary monsters!" - but wait, there is more: the strong ones got boosted! For example:

Turtle General => Normal Version 320.700 HP and 55 VIT LeikaRo Version 1.442.000 HP and 124 VIT => HP got increased by ~4,5x and VIT by ~2,25x. So you need >even more< Bottles to be able to get it down.

["Damage formula per hit is: (0.7 * Target's VIT * Creator's INT^2) / (Target's VIT + Creator's INT)." ]

 

 

Conclusion: it takes a lot of time to just be able playing this class (sure you can support with healing and fcp, but there are way better classes to do this) otherwise you can use it to sell stuff and thats pretty much it...which is sad if you compare it with the core power you get from champs (hi asura), lord knights (berzerk) or sinx (EDP - yes you have to farm that, but it lasts more than just one attack and they have >other strong< skills) and the other I dont even know about...

 

In 2015 someone already asked and got told "but its very easy to farm the stuff". Well if it is so easy, tell me how and where? Tell me how long you need to get 100 Bottles each.

I just dont see why it should be so hard to get this class playable compared to the other classes. Sure if you got infinite time it wont matter, but I dont and I love this class. Help please!

 



#2 Nalgy

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Posted 21 September 2018 - 11:56 AM

Hello there, welcome to Leika.
 
There are a few ways to obtain certain reagents to make your life less of a hell, but still require you a bit of time and patience, such as Green Surgical Gown+Scalpel set (@id 15044 + @id 13027) to get Alcohol and Immortal Heart by hunting down Demi-Humans and Brutes (keep in mind you have to kill these, not your homunculus or mercenary, or you will get nothing, same applies for items/cards with similar effects), or using a Red Lantern (@id 2976, cash shop) which adds a small chance to obtain Alcohol, Detrimindexta and Karvodailnirol. (If you plan to make a farming set with these items I'd also suggest Dokebi's Horn (@id 5573 from Prontera Princess) and Glove of Fortune (@id 2906 cash shop item) to get extra cash when farming multiple items.
 
I've seen some people using Change Material skill to get Alcohols (Orcish Voucher + Skel-Bone).
 
You can also do it the old fashioned way, by hunting stem+poison spores and using Pharmacy to make your own Alcohol!
 
 
Yes, these aren't exactly easy to make and time a bit of time and effort to get, and please, bear in mind you have two important commands at your service, those are @wd (@whodrops) and @whereis, you can use databases as reference but better double check in-game for locations to get items, it saved me in the past, and personally I like to kill Nightmare Wraith in Nightmare Glast Heim 9vR3o2p.jpg
 


 
 
Turtle General => Normal Version 320.700 HP and 55 VIT LeikaRo Version 1.442.000 HP and 124 VIT => HP got increased by ~4,5x and VIT by ~2,25x. So you need >even more< Bottles to be able to get it down.
 
["Damage formula per hit is: (0.7 * Target's VIT * Creator's INT^2) / (Target's VIT + Creator's INT)." ]
 
 

 

 

 
Here you are using pre-renewal AD formula, keep in mind Leika is a renewal server, where both ATK and MATK add to Acid Demonstration damage (and, unlike pre-renewal, cards affect AD damage). If you right click the AD skill in-game you can get an idea how it works.  rJzgbcg.png
 
With the pre-renewal formula I would not even be able to do more than 50k per AD. Here I'm using AD against Turtle General without any important buff, I'm not using amazing gear and still missing many cards. Took me about 6 AD and few Spore Explosions and/or Cart Cannons to kill it.ceRwSiF.jpg
 
 
 
Personally I don't find it hard to get materials for AD, I always get them when farming or looking for something else. I think AD is pretty rewarding regarding time/effort (if used wisely of course). I get about 1k Alcohol and 1k Immortal Hearts on a single day (probably exaggerating here, about <6 hours of playing), and if you are smart, you will know how to use Demonic Fire at your favor to save on Bottled Grenades (Concentrated Bottled Grenades).

Edited by Nalgy, 21 September 2018 - 02:22 PM.



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