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#1 Murasakilucky

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 03:50 PM

Hello this is Murasaki..

 

it's a bit annoying when we got killed by some low class monsters that only cast magic skills that have big damage output..

so have everyone complain about this? or think about this..

i know you guys like to have adventure and more challenging experience in PvM

 

but come on.. you died because of Heaven's Drive from Evil druid and dead by Gazeti's Cold Bolt..

 

what i'm trying to say is..

can we change this?

 

Looking forward for your Answers

Murasaki

 



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Posted 21 December 2014 - 04:32 PM

I had the same problem with the Freezer's cold bolt, but what was even worse was the Peremeter's heal spam every 2 seconds exactly.



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Posted 21 December 2014 - 05:03 PM

mfw frost diver finished me off



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Posted 21 December 2014 - 05:21 PM

I had the same problem with the Freezer's cold bolt, but what was even worse was the Peremeter's heal spam every 2 seconds exactly.

 

all skill delays have been modified. this change will be up next maintenance.

 

Hello this is Murasaki..

 

it's a bit annoying when we got killed by some low class monsters that only cast magic skills that have big damage output..

so have everyone complain about this? or think about this..

i know you guys like to have adventure and more challenging experience in PvM

 

but come on.. you died because of Heaven's Drive from Evil druid and dead by Gazeti's Cold Bolt..

 

what i'm trying to say is..

can we change this?

 

Looking forward for your Answers

Murasaki

 

mob damage was increased in a kRO update that Herc/rAthena haven't implemented. we'll be slightly reducing the power of some spell damage to somewhat offset this change.


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#5 Terpsichore

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 05:34 PM

Our entire monster database was overhauled to reflect latest kRO changes, which results in most normal monsters having 25% or so more ATK, while most MvPs and certain mobs like Bio3/4 ones had their ATK reduced.

 

Since monster's MATK is directly based on their ATK and further amplified by their INT, it's obviously going to hurt more.



#6 Psor

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 05:38 PM

mob damage was increased in a kRO update that Herc/rAthena haven't implemented. we'll be slightly reducing the power of some spell damage to somewhat offset this change.

Please no. So far we had no problems with lvling in places with magic casting monsters, even if it was much above our lvls. Don't casualize this shit even more.

#7 Scias

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 05:42 PM

^easy for a mage class to say.
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#8 Terpsichore

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 05:42 PM

I would just reduce skill levels for some stuff that hits too hard by a level or two if they prove to be too much of an issue.



#9 Psor

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 06:34 PM

^easy for a mage class to say.

Quick example: Loli Ruris hit me for 1/3 max hp on 110 lvl and 80ish vit with Soule Strike. If I had instant skills I wouldn't need to tank this shit and get hit while casting my WoEs. Honestly, classes like spiral LKs, throwing ninjas, gunslingers, DS snipers or grimm SinXes have it easy. Int based mdef is shit, as it should be. And no, magic rod doesn't work while you cast long-ass Psychic Wave.

#10 Scias

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 07:04 PM

Grim is weak. Monsters skills have alot of marc effect and fast cast especially at ice cave.

#11 Psor

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 08:12 PM

You are weak.

#12 Scias

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Posted 21 December 2014 - 08:35 PM

GXs are weak tbh. Unless they enjoy cookies aspd

#13 Murasakilucky

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 12:54 AM

 

 

 

 

mob damage was increased in a kRO update that Herc/rAthena haven't implemented. we'll be slightly reducing the power of some spell damage to somewhat offset this change.

 

 

I would just reduce skill levels for some stuff that hits too hard by a level or two if they prove to be too much of an issue.

So it's going to change then?

 

and please, the purpose of this thread is not to show your Weakness and strength :D



#14 Scias

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 01:02 AM

Sorry, some socialists like to derail

At the moment when a freezer or gazeti uses magic, it kills you much quicker than a nepenthes or similar level monster, which imbalances the monster rank, so to speak. Turtles are supposed to be easier than ash-vacuum mobs according to level. If you do want to keep things tougher like Psor would like, better to make everything tougher overall, by raising every mob stat but by a much smaller amount. Then at least the levelling chain is still consistent i.e. ash vacuum mobs are still tougher than turtles.

#15 Zorthei

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 07:41 PM

That just means , Warlock might be Overpowered with Magic Attacks.

 

-- And i agree that changing monster spell damages is ridiculous. Normally at Magma dung 2 i get 400-600 fireball damages(With beginner gears) , now it's 1800-2400. <--- Thats 400% stronger spells.

 

-- A big LOL at Heal Spam from healing monsters (pretty annoying) :P



#16 Syncope

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Posted 22 December 2014 - 08:53 PM

I enjoy the perma-sleep droseras cast upon me as well. /sarcasm
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#17 FlashCombo

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 02:30 AM

Gotta agree that some magic attacks from monsters seem alot higher than usual. If its official keep it, if not, maybe wanna change it.. Especially those higher level mobs Bolts can easily take 30k of your health if you dont wear redux x)



#18 Scias

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 03:43 AM

It is official, but that's pretty much another reason to change it lol. We don't want another truero.



#19 Randfeon

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 04:24 AM

I'd rather keep everything as it should be, especially given how this server isn't affected by that problem that makes monster magic deal nearly no damage at all in most other Renewal servers. At the very least this is an excuse to get elemental protection gear.


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#20 FlashCombo

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 06:33 PM

Iunno, i mean all the pr0ns want a challenge and no ez pzy rickroll cheesy mode. Which is fine, but we gotta consider all the other people who might find this too hard and we should focus on building a server that any type of player can enjoy, right?

That aside, i think getting one shotted at the low levels of 70+ by some waterballs and magic is just plain dumb lol. I get to Byalan 5 after dozens of fly wings, ran outta fly wings at some point, get one waterball and im out gg no re. I mean please.




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