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#1 Gionelles

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 07:36 AM

My humble little suggestion only applies to dungeons with multiple access quests for each of the different levels of the dungeon itself.


So I did the Scaraba Hole 2 quest... and noticed some stuff. Most importantly, I noticed that while my whole account could access the Scaraba Hole, only the character that I did the quest for Scaraba Hole 2 on could enter Scaraba Hole 2 (via the dialog with the three NPCs, and having the accessory Ring of the Ancient Wise King equipped). So, my entire account can access the completely useless Scaraba Hole 1, but getting to Scaraba Hole 2 is a character-to-character credential? I mean, normally I wouldn't even bat an eyelash to this kind of thing. The reason I'm posting about it now though is because making the second and beyond levels of a dungeon only available to the individual character that completed the access quest for said levels seems counter intuitive because of how the Sylph Cartographer allows your entire account to visit certain dungeons, based on what access quests any given character on that account has completed.

So, the suggested change: The dungeons with multiple levels and multiple access quests respectively that Sylph Cartographer requires an Access Quest for should allow you to teleport to lv1, lv2, lv3, etc (of course, only to each respective level when a character on your account has completed the access quest for that level, and NOT for ANY other dungeons/levels (meaning that selecting the level of a dungeon should only apply to levels that have individual access quests, and NOT open-to-everyone dungeons such as Payon, Ice, and Turtle Dungeons, for example. All of those other dungeons without access quests should NOT be level-selectable, because they do not require access quests to access their deeper levels)). That way, I only have to do Doha's Secret Orders once (as well as a few other quests).

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#2 chaoscrisis

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 04:48 PM

I agree with this suggestion, having to do those access quests once is already more than enough.



#3 Psor

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 05:27 PM

No. Just fix account wide access for scaraba2. And be thankful you don't have to do Rachel and Abbey entrance quests.

#4 Sylphid

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Posted 21 February 2015 - 06:13 PM

It's fine as it is - If anything, it would be better to make access quests character bound instead of account bound.

I'm definitely against adding teleport straight to subsequent floors (even if it's just for a few dungeons), for multiple reasons:

  • Makes it way easier to farm, no need to bring pots or even decent equipment. This encourages solo play even more, which most people seem to be against.
  • Makes it much easier to kill mvps (Gold queen scaraba etc.) as you can simply pull it near the entrance and instantly teleport back when you die.
  • Adds more entries to the cartographer, making it slightly more cumbersome to find what you're looking for.

Also, making scaraba F2 available without quest makes it easier to obtain Bradium Earring from the quest Frede's Request.


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#5 FWQ943W09J5G0KERI

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 01:49 AM

Meh, normally id say Gio and Sylphid both have fair points, offer my opinion, and then smirk at the replies. But im not actually on the server in game, so ill stay quiet. :3

Though, I will say that im leaning toward Gio's suggestion a little more.

#6 Aina

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 02:41 AM

  • Makes it much easier to kill mvps (Gold queen scaraba etc.) as you can simply pull it near the entrance and instantly teleport back when you die.

This point pretty much.

I understand the suggestion, and I would like it too. But the ideia of having a direct teleport to a MvP map isn't good IMO.

 

Like few weeks ago when I was at Bio2, the guy lured the MvP all the way to the entrance(where the teleporter sends you to, in that little corner), and just cheesed it.


Edited by Aina, 22 February 2015 - 02:42 AM.


#7 Terpsichore

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 03:20 AM

This actually isn't intended, it's supposed to send you to the first level, gonna fix that.



#8 Gionelles

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 06:33 AM

Damn MVPs ruining my suggestions. Well, yeah, I guess I can't even stand by my own suggestion too much when I think about it like that. Meh, but at least the suggestion exists now.

#9 FlashCombo

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 04:16 PM

am against it aswell. Same reasoning as psor and sylphid.



#10 FWQ943W09J5G0KERI

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Posted 22 February 2015 - 10:06 PM

Damn MVPs ruining my suggestions. Well, yeah, I guess I can't even stand by my own suggestion too much when I think about it like that. Meh, but at least the suggestion exists now.

This is why women shouldnt make suggestions, Gio. Especially not blonde women. Wait... im blonde.

Fuck.

#11 Susurro

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 12:27 PM

Good luck luring Scarab Queen to portal and keeping her there.

That said I don't see a need for a teleport into any level 2/3 or up levels of any dungeon, except Amatsu Dungeon (or enable teleport in level 1).

Everything is fine as it is

Edited by Selphie, 23 February 2015 - 12:29 PM.


#12 Sylphid

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Posted 23 February 2015 - 12:41 PM

Good luck luring Scarab Queen to portal and keeping her there.

Why would that be difficult?

She won't teleport as long as someone is alive and got aggro, so as long as there are 2 or more players there's no problem.

Also, the teleport doesn't get cast immediately when everyone is dead.




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