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[Jess]

It saddens me that this hidden gem in all the flooded bugged unbalanced server only got a few players.... WE NEED TO ADVERTISE THE SERVER ASAP!! 

[Aurora]

http://leika-ro.net/...for-the-server/

 

https://www.facebook...465433537053833

[penciltea]

If you want to spread the word around about Leika, go for it! c: tell your friends, your neighbors, random strangers on the bus...

Lol but seriously, we always encourage players to give honest feedback, reviews, advertisements, and the like. Private servers, especially smaller ones, rely on word of mouth and players encouraging others to try it out. I'm working on some advertisement ideas myself at the moment, I'm hoping to work on them soon. ^^

[Syncope]

What you guys need to do is tone down pvm-ing and step into pvp/woe scene. Thatll attract players. (Stop being prontera princesses as well)

[Psor]

2 or 3 guilds which were already WoEing here before managed to get max lvl and gear. You quit because you burned out, not because there's something wrong. You just look for excuses.

[Syncope]

2 or 3 guilds which were already WoEing here before managed to get max lvl and gear. You quit because you burned out, not because there's something wrong. You just look for excuses.

And this is coming from someone who didnt WoE AT ALL? So what's your excuse.

Edited by Syncope, 05 September 2015 - 03:37 PM.

[Psor]

I did. I even recorded, but RO replay is shit. Just not on sorc :^)

[Scias]

He was warper AB.

[Syncope]

I did. I even recorded, but RO replay is shit. Just not on sorc :^)

So you didnt play at all basically. Ok. Im done here.

[annaquin]

I can tell a bit why ? 

Leika-RO is great , fast fix, accurate, follow gravity last update , but ...

 

1. WOE in renewal is crap ( it's not a problem of unbalanced , it's a problem of how low population server are balanced at all , as castle drop gear, it's de facto that primary holder are full geared while any other are naked )

 

2. On low population, WOE 2 is nearly impossible as attaquant, 4 guardians+ full buff, 3 holder and kaite, and that's all you need

 

3. Time to gear up, as close as it is, low rate or mide rate make the game extremly slow to play ( because you can't wait 0.01% or 1% drop rate from item )

It's not a problem of low rate or mid rate, it's a problem of economy.

 

When you are on a normal server, you usually TRADE, aka sell wanted item ( 10kz or 100kz ) and get rare drop item ( 1mz or 10mz) , so the low rate play a low factor into collect item

On a low rate server , it's dumb because low population won't BUY anything from your crappy drop, it's a complete stale mate and as long as the vend machine isn't controlling the economy , your server will never raise up.

People can't farm on vitata for hours to get 10 heal lvl 1 , nor creamy card for PVM

 

4. Dual client = dead server , as it's nearly impossible to find a priest to level, but again , on low population priest won't play outside of their friend circle... it's a stale mate

 

5. enhanced experience from Gravity dumb concept ...

Technically , Gravity made the game to be a copy of FF 6 , but western player prefer FF 7 aka dual classes and versatility instead of specialization. 

As most skill were design to answer QQ from countless emo kids from korea, the 1 HIT KILL that murder all mmorpg hit Ragnarok as well...

 

And of course, people will play GoH Shura because , it's easy, cost nothing give max security, guaranteed dmg and can even caught off guard in PVP to make it enjoyable.

 

But well , I really like Leika-RO althought the community is quite ego centric 

[Syncope]

God that was painful to read

[Terpsichore]

I don't really get what's annaquin on about considering that he only played here until like level 90 and pretty much everything he stated is either wrong, not really renewal exclusive or related to rates at all. What I get is a "RO is wrong except the RO I have in my head" vibe which would just stop anyone from enjoying the game no matter what.

[Scias]

Just another person who wasn't around in cookie's prime days

[annaquin]

I don't really get what's annaquin on about considering that he only played here until like level 90 and pretty much everything he stated is either wrong, not really renewal exclusive or related to rates at all. What I get is a "RO is wrong except the RO I have in my head" vibe which would just stop anyone from enjoying the game no matter what.

Actually I don't get what you are saying, ... I am not trying to change your server at all ...  I didn't say crap about it and always speak highly of it... 

 

I made some statements based on my research, that's include your server but also many others. I actually spent time observing new players entering the game and trying to coopt, party, grind, invest and all. 

 

Technically your server is like many others, leveraging on social party, only a faction can join and persist on your server, you can't collect single players and grow as a flow, but that's behavior is common to 99% of private server.I wasn't trying to be rude ...

[Terpsichore]

Your can't just throw free bones at everyone who joins and expect things to persist either. Such behavior is exactly what created this "culture" of entitled and server hopping players, heavily wounding the private server scene. Spoonfeeding players (high rates) is just as bad as stopping them from progressing (disabling dual clienting).

 

I didn't say you were rude just that most of what you said isn't exactly accurate and you weren't around long enough to actually experience the game first-hand.

[annaquin]

That's wasn't my point at all, My point is low probability to obtain an item don't depend on the drop rate but on the game content availability.

 

You can perfectly have a extreme low rate and still have high probability to get an item.

 

There is many factor to increase rate availability :

- high rate choose static high rate -> make 90% of item worrhtless

- customized item crafting -> make a guarantee limited time to obtain item

- lottery -> make game content highly available on variance

- trading -> based on economy

- weighted normal reward -> animation by events

- donation -> shortcut of grind

etc...

 

It doesn't necesserly imply spoonfeeding..

[Scias]

Generally a high rate server is synonymous with a high item drop rate as well as experience rate.

[Psor]

1. WOE in renewal is crap ( it's not a problem of unbalanced , it's a problem of how low population server are balanced at all , as castle drop gear, it's de facto that primary holder are full geared while any other are naked )

Yes, it is problem of unbalance, not problem of low population and low rates. Castle drops were complete shit for ages so you can't blame it on castle drops. The only decent treasures were OCAs, BBs and maybe berets. That's all. The rest was shit (excluding god item quest mats ofc). The real difference is between people who have enough wil and organization to hunt and keep MvP spawns, and those who don't. The imbalance of early renewal is what made this shit impression and made WoE oriented people to not even join renewal in the first place. Also giving every class fucking AoE was shit decision and it could also hurt WoE in my opinion.

2. On low population, WOE 2 is nearly impossible as attaquant, 4 guardians+ full buff, 3 holder and kaite, and that's all you need

Guardians are weak. Linkers die to fart thanks to lack of 3rd class hp pool. If it's so easy, bring 2 other friends and demonstrate how you hold the castle. You can completely "gear" yourself with those amazing treasure chests!

3. Time to gear up, as close as it is, low rate or mide rate make the game extremly slow to play ( because you can't wait 0.01% or 1% drop rate from item )
It's not a problem of low rate or mid rate, it's a problem of economy.
 
When you are on a normal server, you usually TRADE, aka sell wanted item ( 10kz or 100kz ) and get rare drop item ( 1mz or 10mz) , so the low rate play a low factor into collect item
On a low rate server , it's dumb because low population won't BUY anything from your crappy drop, it's a complete stale mate and as long as the vend machine isn't controlling the economy , your server will never raise up.
People can't farm on vitata for hours to get 10 heal lvl 1 , nor creamy card for PVM

Cards drop on 0,1% chance. Statistically it's 1000 monsters. It's not that hard, really. Takes 10-40 minutes depending on your class farming efficiency. The only eceptions are monsters with really low spawn and MvPs, but there's not many of them. Besides, most cards you "HAVE TO" have are WoE cards, and that's just marc, nox/ray, hydras, thara and zakudams. Only zakudams are problem to get because they spawn in GDs, the rest has high or medicore spawns. I farmed cards (including your creamy which btw has few other alternatives on this server) and gears and it really isn't as time consuming as you make it to be. And your "can't wait for 1% drop" is laughable. You can mob and kill like 10 monsters easily with one AoE within short amount of time. If you can't repeat it 10 times then maybe you should play some easier game with instant gratification/loss. Something like slot machines in casino. Just pull the lever and get results instantly.
People will but if you'll sell reasonable item at reasonable price. No one buys shit like stone bucklers, green berets etc because you can get those items within couple of minutes on low rate (!). People only buy valuable stuff they can't get themselves (variants, proxies, cash shop stuff), or when they have too much cash and are lazy/want to spend it. Even on low rate lvling is so fast, you don't need to buy shit gears to lvl up. Instead you can instantly aim for end game, or near eng game gears. Increasing rates is making this problem even deeper to the point prices of end game stuff drop to 1-2m and there's no reason to party at all. You just want it to gear yourself, don't you? You don't actually care about bigger picture, you just think 20-40m variants are overpriced and you want high drops to raise cash or drop prices fast. Isn't that a bit egocentric of you?

4. Dual client = dead server , as it's nearly impossible to find a priest to level, but again , on low population priest won't play outside of their friend circle... it's a stale mate

Bring your friends. Befriend existing "cliques". There're guild recruitation threads on this forum, you can also speak to people in pront yourself. Or you expect others to bring you everything on silver plate and invite you to pt? I know lot of people are afraid to organize parties for unknown for me reason. Or you give up when you won't get your instant gratification in form of people instantly trying to get into your pt after announcement? Guess what, we were able to make parties. We didn't always have everything we needed, so we picked stuff we can afford with what we had. And we advanced. Not as fast as it would be with perfect setup, but we lvled up, got gears and did hunted MvPs.
Also I think the real problem with parties are actually repeatable quests. On EVERY server without any kind of board based repeatable quests partying was one of the most efficient ways of lvling, especially for weaker players, so there were always parties that lasted for hours. When boards provide majority of exp, you don't care about deaths so you can just warp in > kill few onsters > die > repeat, or you don't have incentive to stay in exp place ore than you're required to to get quest kills. Pront board with huge reward and 24h cooldown was perfect copromise, eden boards are overkill that would kill parties completely if it wasn't for fast that current engame stuff is so strong, very few can solo it. It'd be good to check some kind of statistics to see how big is gap between taking all the quests, and taking only the soloable ones. Bifrost tower would be perfect example. Only parties clear whole tower, solo players just take monsters you can find on 1st and eventually 2nd floors. We'd know how many people use the boards to lvl up alone compared to amount of parties.

5. enhanced experience from Gravity dumb concept ...
Technically , Gravity made the game to be a copy of FF 6 , but western player prefer FF 7 aka dual classes and versatility instead of specialization. 
As most skill were design to answer QQ from countless emo kids from korea, the 1 HIT KILL that murder all mmorpg hit Ragnarok as well...

Actually, compared to pre-re, renewal has much more versatility and "dual classes". Problem was indeed huge imbalance at start with OHKOs all over the place, but this got a bit reduced by balance patches, and a bit futher with certain changes here iirc.

And of course, people will play GoH Shura because , it's easy, cost nothing give max security, guaranteed dmg and can even caught off guard in PVP to make it enjoyable.

Actually if you played a bit around here, you'd know that in most cases, attempts to make some end-game content parties are destroyed by lack of suras.

Also i don't see any proposition of alternatives, solutions, etc. Just rants about low rates and probably hope that someone will know what you exactly want. You just want to play on server with rules you know, servers the same to the ones you played before, don't you? You don't want to adjust your playstyle to this server reality. What is the reason? Fear? Laziness? Just daily dose of complaints to keep you sane? Please tell me, I want to understand your kind.

Edited by Psor, 11 September 2015 - 08:36 PM.

[Scias]

Socialist wall of text

[Krabs]

What you guys need to do is tone down pvm-ing and step into pvp/woe scene. Thatll attract players. (Stop being prontera princesses as well)

 

most br,russo,germans, peenoise, indo, malay are competitive players who loves killing each other's own race so this might be good

but idk what's wrong with the pvp/woe system here    , so care to elaborate?