The core issue is Butterfly Wings as already discussed. Without being able to bwing back so quickly even in the middle of an action (I thought Flash Combo was supposed to disable consumables even?) there is a lot more consequence to what actions you choose to do on the defending side. Personally I think the WoE warper everyone can already access is OK, you could put a 5-10 second delay on it before it actually warps you to simulate the Warp Portal delay. I don't think defending guilds should have the flag directly in Prontera, that easily saves 10 seconds or more and combined with bwings you literally can flag in back to where you were in the castle before someone's Asura Strike SP lock is even finished right after killing you. How ridiculous that is should be self explanatory.
Hell, when we took the castle first in the 3 way WoE most of us weren't even saved in Prontera so we actually did use the WoE warper, then had to flag into the castle. That was honestly much more enjoyable because I knew I wasn't able to faceroll and come back in 2 seconds. Back then when I played my Sura for the first time on defense I quickly realized it was stupid to actually bother potting SP inbetween fights or even in the middle of fights when I could just use a bwing, get a full heal (and even 3rd class debuffs cleared back then) and come back in 3 seconds at any angle I felt like. Suras, sans Flash Combo are supposed to still be gated by SP and that is not happening on defense when you are saving more than 300+ SP items per WoE by pressing a single bwing which actually puts you in action faster rofl. If course a class is going to feel oppressive when one of the main things controlling them is easily circumvented.
All of this is before the other elephant in the room, keeping all of your buffs and consumables intact because not even Cursed Circle stops you from bwinging to safety - as it turns out some classes are insanely strong with little to no fixed cast times if they can have +20 foods and consumables on permanently, along with FCP. SHOCKING!!! The difference is if you want to risk diving into attacking guilds repeatedly then you better be prepared to have a giant stack of foods. Right now as it is anyone that gets dispelled just bwings and comes back (again, at any flanking angle they choose) good to go again with all of their foods intact. Makes no sense to consider custom class balancing first when the issue is the game isn't supposed to be played with permanent +20 foods with no consequence (or else they wouldn't dispel on death).
My thoughts for changes currently in priority, and that I hope is done before next WoE:
1. Disable usage of Butterfly Wings
2. Disable instant flag in Prontera
I think any other changes that were brought up in this topic should be waited on after current changes go through. If guilds are actually forced to consume their consumables (!!!) we will see if they have spent enough time on the game to keep up their class with peak stats (Instant cast, higher damage, etc) to be able to hold out during the entire WoE. Too many changes at once will muddle what's enabling everything else to be an issue.
Edited by Salad, 19 January 2016 - 07:40 AM.
