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#1 neferefer

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 07:59 PM

I've had position lag since I started playing, and no amount of tweaking with my settings (router, ethernet device settings, registry settings, downloading new drivers, ragnarok settings) has had any effect on it. Recently I moved house, and in the process upgraded from 20mb to a 40mb fibre-to-the-premises internet connection. I still get position lag.

 

I'm getting a few stutters every few seconds. It looks like frame skipping. I know it's not my graphics card or refresh rate settings or anything, because the /camera command in the game helps. It decouples the camera from my character, so I can see my character skipping a frame, and not the whole screen like before.

 

Like I said, I've tried numerous tweaks, including the obvious things like enabling Nagle's Algorithm and port forwarding. I would give this up as simple bad ping to the server, but my friend next door doesn't have this issue even though his hardware is nearly identical to mine. I also don't have these lag spikes to other servers that are more populated and further away from me than Leika.

 

I'm on Windows 8.1 x64, and my motherboard has a Realtek 8111e ethernet controller. I'd be grateful for suggestions or fixes.


Edited by neferefer, 05 March 2015 - 08:25 PM.


#2 Terpsichore

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 08:02 PM

Did you try /skip?

#3 neferefer

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 08:15 PM

Yeah, and it only caused certain animations to animate at twice the speed. I also tried reducing my monitor's refresh rate from 120hz to 60hz, and locking the framerate of the game to 60fps.



#4 Terpsichore

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 08:45 PM

Any difference between windowed and fullscreen modes?

#5 Scias

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 09:52 PM

I sometimes get problems like that in other games if my CPU or even GPU is overclocked. Just thought I'd say that in case you have something overclocked. I duno why, maybe motherboard can't handle it and gets the components out of sync. It causes position lag/ticking on BF4 so it sounds similar. Try your system at stock speeds if they aren't already.

#6 Terpsichore

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 10:04 PM

Oh also, game's process has low priority by default, try setting it to normal.

#7 neferefer

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 10:33 PM

Any difference between windowed and fullscreen modes?

 

You can't really play Rag on Windows 8 in fullscreen, but I have tried disabling Desktop Window Manager (Aero), which didn't help. I also tried forcing my GPU to stay in high power mode (despite Ragnarok barely touching it), and I disabled all power saving options on the CPU in the BIOS, and neither of these steps worked.

 

I sometimes get problems like that in other games if my CPU or even GPU is overclocked. Just thought I'd say that in case you have something overclocked. I duno why, maybe motherboard can't handle it and gets the components out of sync. It causes position lag/ticking on BF4 so it sounds similar. Try your system at stock speeds if they aren't already.

 

I've tried that as well. The odd thing like I said is how I can play on other servers without the issue. It really does feel like some sort of network issue, but it's so weird that my friend doesn't get it.



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Posted 05 March 2015 - 10:36 PM

Oh also, game's process has low priority by default, try setting it to normal.

 

Oh. That sounds like it could be it. Issue is, I don't seem to be able to change priority. I click to set it to normal, and it just goes back to low. I'll try and figure out why this is happening, probably some Windows 8 thing.



#9 Lyka

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 11:15 PM

You can't change the priority. There's something in the client to force the priority. No amount of changing or extra programs will have any effect. As soon as the game comes back into focus its priority gets set to low again.

 

No idea why it does this but there are posts on the internets about it.



#10 neferefer

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 11:19 PM

Thanks, I was getting kind of worked up trying to change priority. I even downloaded another server again to see if that one was running smoothly with low priority, and it was.



#11 Scias

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Posted 05 March 2015 - 11:21 PM

Maybe try changing every other process to low? Would that give leika same priority as everything else effectively making it normal priority?

Still I doubt it is that, seeing as it is low on everybody elses machine.

#12 neferefer

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Posted 06 March 2015 - 01:09 AM

It didn't work, unfortunately.

 

I pinged the server just now, and got between 82ms and 91ms for 100 packets, 0% loss. Server's actually a lot further away than I thought. Still, no packet loss.

 

Welp. Thanks for all the help so far.



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Posted 07 March 2015 - 05:37 PM

Just some bit of information, position lag is a network issue not a perfomance it can be caused by various different factors on your network.

 

You can try changing the delayed ack of TCP, althrought I don't know how it's working on W8, it can helps a bit. You can either do it yourself or use Leatrix fixer that roam the internet since my days of vanilla WoW.



#14 neferefer

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Posted 07 March 2015 - 09:29 PM

I'm not sure that it's necessarily position lag, though it does look like it. I've already tried disabling Nagle's algorithm though, as well as several other networking tweaks.

Edited by neferefer, 07 March 2015 - 09:31 PM.



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